Media Appearances by Ron Baker and Ed Kless
Ron and Ed named to the Top 100 Most Influential in Accounting
We’re proud to share that Ron Baker and Ed Kless have once again been named to Accounting Today’s Top 100 Most Influential People in Accounting — recognized for challenging the profession to rethink its purpose and potential.
Video and Podcast: Ron Baker - Transformation Economy Will Redefine Accounting | Gear Up For Growth
Ron Baker discusses the profession’s next major evolution: the transformation economy, where firms no longer compete on services, scope, or efficiency, but on their ability to change lives. Here are the links:
Podcast: Ron Baker on Coupons, Tiers, and “Student Discounts” - Interpreting Pricing Psychology | Accounting ARC
On Accounting ARC – Student-Led Conversations, host Harshita Multani interviews Ron Baker—author, educator, and sought-after speaker—about price discrimination and the psychology behind everyday pricing. Across coffee shops, hotels, streaming platforms, and movie theaters, Baker says the same principle repeats: value is subjective, so pricing must be, too.
Podcast: Ron Baker on the Transformation Economy | Digits Podcast with Kacee Johnson
What happens when AI collapses the value of time? We rediscover the value of transformation. THRESHOLD co-founder, Ron Bake,r joined Kacee Johnson on AI-Native Accounting to discuss the evolving purpose of professional firms and the shift from billing hours to guiding human change.
Podcast: Ed Kless on The Disruptors - Profit Is a Result
Ed Kless appeared with Liz Farr on CPA Trendline’s The Disruptors. He believes accountants can do much more than monitor the numbers.
Session: Ed Kless at acuCONNECT 2025: Day 2 - Initiating a Project in a Small/Medium Business
Projects in SMB organizations are rarely initiated properly. Oddly, it is not hard to do; however, it requires us to think differently.
Podcast: Ron Baker on Accounting ARC - Bootleggers, Baptists, & CPAs: Rethinking Licensure
Licensure is one of the bedrock features of the CPA profession. But what if that bedrock is actually quicksand? In a provocative episode of Accounting ARC, hosts Donny Shimamoto, CPA.CITP, CGMA; and Byron Patrick, CPA.CITP, CGMA, sit down with noted author and thought leader Ron Baker to ask: Should CPAs even be licensed at all?
Podcast: Ron and Ed on the PPS Podcast - A Revelation for the Transformation Economy
In this episode of Let’s Talk Pricing, PPS President Kevin Mitchell sits down with Ron Baker and Ed Kless, co-founders of THRESHOLD and two of the most influential voices on value, transformation, and enterprise.
Podcast: Ron Baker on The Disruptors Podcast: Burnout Ends When Accounting Finds Its True Purpose
Ron Baker has been pushing accountants to change how they think and how they operate their businesses for decades, starting more than 20 years ago by ditching the timesheet, and followed recently by adopting a subscription approach to services.
Podcast: Ed Kless on Crossing the Threshold: Redefining Transformation in Business
In episode 135 of The Woodard Report Podcast, Joe Woodard is joined by Ed Kless, co-founder of Threshold, to explore the philosophy behind Threshold and the broader idea of the transformation economy. The conversation examines why professionals must go beyond services and experiences to deliver true transformation for their clients.
Article: Ron on From Services to Experiences to Transformations
Ron was recently quoted in Rory Henry's feature piece on CPA Trendlines entitled From Services to Experiences to Transformations.
Video: Ron Baker on Bookkeepers On Fire
Get ready to rethink everything you thought you knew about pricing, value, and the future of the accounting profession. Ron shares his no-BS insights on: 💥 Why hourly billing is broken 📈 The true value of your expertise 🚀 How bookkeepers can shift to value-based pricing (and finally get paid what they’re worth)
Video: Ron Baker with Matthew Kerbis - Timesheets ≠ Costs
Mathew Kerbis from Law Subscribed and Ron dive deep into the pitfalls of cost accounting and timesheets, particularly in the context of legal and professional services. Ron shares insights from his and his late colleague Reginald Tomas Lee’s works, detailing why traditional cost accounting is fundamentally flawed and emphasizing the shift toward a transformation economy.
Podcast: Enterprise Software Podcast Episode 197 – Ed Kless, Ron Baker, and the Threshold of a Transformation Economy
In this conversation with Ed and Ron, we dive into the Transformation Economy – what it is, why it matters, and how firms can move beyond selling time or even outcomes to delivering genuine transformation for their customers.
Article: The Transformation Economy Begins Now
As a follow up to Ed speaking at his high school alma mater’s first ever leadership conference, the school published an artcile by him entitled The Transformation Economy Begins Now.
Video: AICPA Townhall featuring Ed Kless on the Transformation Economy
The transformation economy: Redefining client value with Ed Kless, co-founder of THRESHOLD and co-host of The Soul of Enterprise podcast.
Video: Ron and Ed on Transactions to Transformations: Redefining Implementations in the Age of Aspiration
In today’s rapidly evolving ERP marketplace, businesses are moving beyond transactions to offer profound personal transformations. This session will explore the emerging Transformation Economy and how it’s redefining industry practices by aligning with customers’ aspirations for health & well-being, purpose & meaning, wisdom & understanding, and wealth & prosperity.
Video: Ed Kless on Transformation Talks - Cancel Culture or Curious Culture? You Choose.
In the latest episode of Transformation Talks, host Donny Shimamoto, CPA.CITP, CGMA, leads a powerful discussion In which Ed Kless participated on “assumed discrimination”—the cultural collisions that happen when others project bias onto someone’s words or actions.
Video: Ron Baker with Barry LeBov - Transforming Your Customer Experience
In this episode, Barry LeBov talks with Ron about the concept of transformation in business, emphasizing the shift from traditional service models to a focus on guiding customers through personal transformations.