Podcast: Enterprise Software Podcast Episode 197 – Ed Kless, Ron Baker, and the Threshold of a Transformation Economy

In this conversation with Ed and Ron, we dive into the Transformation Economy – what it is, why it matters, and how firms can move beyond selling time or even outcomes to delivering genuine transformation for their customers.

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